Where do babies go when they die?

A good message from a Christian perspective. Christian anti-abortionists should consider this and turn their passion away from de-legalization, instead toward helping others realize the physical and spiritual consequences of abortion. According to Christianity, it’s not the babies that should be worried about, it’s those who would prematurely end the lives of their children who are in need of better understanding of their choices. Encouraging isolation for those who consider abortion is more damaging than it is helpful.

Wretched with Todd Friel

Episode 1367

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22 Responses to Where do babies go when they die?

  1. Arkenaten says:

    Someone please give this bloke an enema.

    • jasonjshaw says:

      Ark, you don’t want to watch more of what he has to say about other things – he’s banking on the more indoctrinated side of Christianity for the most part. I often wonder if he really believes what he says half the time, or if the sound of cash registers in the background are enough to keep him going.

      • Arkenaten says:

        Amazing how all the ”bloody do-gooders” seem to be American.
        How come none of these frigging televangelists speak with a Welsh accent. I am just amazed his bank account number is not scrolling across the screen.
        The gods preserve us.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        What bothers me even more than fundamentalist Christians are fundamentalist Christians who are hypocrites to their own beliefs.

        You know, the ones that think we should ban the killing of fetuses even though according to their beliefs babies all get a free pass to heaven.

        Completely hypocritical. They should be happy for the babies that get to heaven so quickly, as they’re always going on about how wonderful it will be to finally get to heaven.

        But yes, indoctrination goes far beyond religion when it comes to the USA – and there are plenty of people out there capitalizing on it as well.

  2. Abortion is murder, it cannot be justified by blaming on being raped as a woman. I believe aborted babies go to heaven.

    • jasonjshaw says:

      Do you believe those who choose abortion should be thrown in jail? That is what calling abortion murder suggests, and that is not a demonstration of having accepted Jesus’ gift of forgiven sins.

      • Sin is sin. It cannot be justified by excuse for instance the woman got raped. Jesus blood alone cleanse us from all sins as long as that woman is repentant for her sin of murder. Abortion is murdering a life. This doesn’t affect the power of Jesus blood. His blood is all powerful. Just like pride is a sin, doesn’t mean it means Jesus cannot save. Of course NO. JESUS is our ONLY hope for eternal life and forgiveness of sins

      • jasonjshaw says:

        I see “murder” more as a charge based on human law. I guess I should ask you then, what should be done with someone who ends another human life?

      • All I can say is that they should repent of their sins to receive forgiveness before it is too late. Going to jail but with no remorse of their sin is generally meaningless in terms of an eternal perspective.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        I think that’s where a big trouble in the argument is – having abortion called murder seems to lend itself to giving people life sentences for taking a morning-after pill. Though it is also ending human life, putting it completely into the same boat with those who kill an integrated member of society does not serve the argument well outside of those who believe the same thing.

      • Abortion is murder because even the baby haven’t been birthed, there is a being; a soul and spirit just like us, inside the mother. The baby is alive, it is a HUMAN life. When the mother intentionally terminate the baby’s life, it is killing an innocent life that is created by our living God.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Life is created by information contained in the sperm and the egg. There is uncertainty of when the multiplying clump of information-driven cells develops into a being with the capacity for soul and spirit.

      • Life can only be created by GOD. The being is alive before birth, you would know it is true for the baby moves in the womb. When the mother is pregnant, the spirit and soul of the little human being would exists.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Babies don’t move in the womb until they have developed that ability. In the first few weeks they are just a clump of cells.

        Also, if unborn humans are given the same rights as birthed humans where abortion is considered as murder – a woman who has a miscarriage could be tried for involuntary manslaughter.

      • It doesn’t have to be moving. Moving is one of the sign. As long as the mother is pregnant is where it counts. Miscarriage is typically not intentional, thus it is not murder. Unborn babies and birthed humans equally are souls and spirits. They are all alive and deserve to be treated fairly and with all respect.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Involuntary manslaughter is when someone is killed but not intentionally. It is still a crime against humanity and can result in potentially a few years in prison.

        If human fetuses are given full rights of the law, then a mother could face charges if she is in any way found negligent in the miscarriage of an unborn child.

        I actually just looked it up and it is actually happening in the USA already. It is going to cause more problems than it solves.

        http://rt.com/usa/mississippi-prosecuting-women-miscarriages-781/

      • The governments’ law of this world today is not completely under the will of GOD, and GOD’s law strive fully for peace and righteousness. For example, the USA – feeding homeless people is against the government’s law. This is preventing others to give out help in kindness to these poor people. I live and strive for GOD’s commandments, one of them is “THOU SHALT NOT KILL”. I do not follow the ways of the world, but only the LORD’s way; YAHUSHUA HA MASHIACH’s commands.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        That is a big part of the problem, the governments’ law is what actually affects people, and allowing charges of murder for unborn babies actually goes against helping those who need help. We should be looking in the other direction of trying to help people who are currently seen as criminals find a better path instead of making more people into criminals.

      • Charges for murder in terms of unintentional miscarriage is not right. Abortion – I am okay with this for it is killing a human, not an animal. I am more concerned over the mother’s repentance over jail sentencing. Helping the miscarriage – miscarriage can be caused by medical conditions or accidental force that would fatally injure the baby which is out of human’s control in most cases.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        But it still leads to a human death, and that should be investigated if the growing baby is as human as everyone else.

        But that is the problem, we shouldn’t be focusing on punishment, we should be focusing on rehabilitation – Christians especially shouldn’t be focusing on inflicting punishment on others. Doing so is against Christian belief.

      • Growing baby is a human being. If the mother do not repent (be remorseful and sorry) for her sin of abortion, she would land up in eternal hell torment. One unrepentant sin can lead a person to hell. In hell, there is eternal punishment and agony. It is the free will of a person to accept GOD’s gift of salvation. GOD never force them. It is wrong to play with the grace of GOD.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Selfishness leads to a negative result, I agree.

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