How to lovingly handle abortion

I spoke out against Christian animosity toward abortion on a blog post the other day.  Someone responded with the comparison of having a child who has taken up stealing.

The equivalent of banning abortions in this scenario would be to lock the child up in a room in order to prevent the crime.  That hardly seems loving.

If I was in such a position, I would hope that I would take the route of educating the child about their actions and consequences of those actions plus the dangers they are exposing themselves and others to.  In a questioning tone I imagine would be the best to allow them to actually understand the full scope of the situation, asking them how it would affect the victims and how they would feel if they were the victim.  Of course, that’s in a perfect world where the child would respect me enough to speak with me about it.  Hopefully I wouldn’t hold such animosity toward such actions so as to separate myself from being able to approach such situations lovingly.

But then again, that’s what anti-abortion Christians have done.  They have chosen to walk the path of control and judgement rather than the path of love and understanding.  I hope they will come to see the trouble in their approach.  It would be great to minimize the need for abortion rather than force children into a world of disarray with mothers who are ill-prepared to carry the weight of another human on their shoulders.

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12 Responses to How to lovingly handle abortion

  1. john zande says:

    Any rational discussion regarding abortion should ideally focus on matters of prevention, not access, as the central subject of any adult discourse. The Christian right have however demonstrated time after time that this is a discussion they simply are not capable of having. They believe their pro-forced-birth position is the beginning and the end of any exchange, although it’s not at all clear how they arrive at this elevated notion. Indeed, if one actually reads scripture (something the vast majority of Christians never actually do) it’s perfectly clear that the particular Middle Eastern god they idolise is a definitive advocate FOR abortion; personally and passionately performing many terminations and ordering countless more, not least of all that detailed in Numbers 5:11-21 where a bizarre and abusive ritual is described which is to be performed by a priest on any woman suspected of adultery; a ritual which results in an abortion. In the text a potion is mixed and the accused woman is brought before the priest who says, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband may the Lord cause you to become a curseamong your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.” As clear as day this is a definitive description of an induced abortion; an act where poison is forcibly given to ruin the foetus and rid a woman of another man’s child. Or perhaps the case detailed in In Hosea 13:16 the Christian god is utterly diabolical as he dashes to “pieces” the infants of Samaria and orders “their pregnant women [to be] ripped open by swords.” This, self-evidently, describes mass abortions of such barbarity that it’s hard to even fathom.

    In total there are in fact twenty-six separate instances where the Middle Eastern god Christians worship performs abortions on demand, conducts infanticide (the intentional killing of new-borns), and murders toddlers en masse; acts recounted from 1 Samuel 15:3 to Isaiah 13:15-18 where this god not only smashes babies to death but also rapes their mothers. In a word the Christian god is a heinous baby-killing, foetus-destroying monster, and as it turns out his son is also no friend of the unborn. In the Gospel of the Egyptians Jesus not only demands total abstinence but preaches for the outright separation of the sexes, stating that “sorrow” and what he repeatedly calls “error” will remain with man for just “As long as women bear children.” The statement is quite explicit: don’t ever get pregnant, and if you do then abortion is better than birth.

    Now, no rational person is of course going to use this mountain of scriptural evidence to align the Jewish-Christian-Islamic god with the pro-choice movement and use it to defend a woman’s right to make decisions concerning her own body. To do so would be absurd, and so bellowing Christians (who’re so quick to label those who are pro-choice as somehow ‘pro-abortion,’ which is the equivalent of labelling someone ‘pro-amputation’) would be well advised to stop trying to do just that… particularly considering they’re contradicting the baby-killing, pregnancy termination actions of their own god and saviour.

    I wish you luck getting your more tolerant message through to the evangelical right wing. Yours is a voice I can easily support.

    • jasonjshaw says:

      Thanks for the perspective John! I never did make it through the OT, lost my drive early in Psalms, and really, I was more interested in who Jesus actually was as a non-God human. Plus I had evidence for the idea of balance being incorporated into the Bible, which is the most significant understanding I tend to take into account when looking at situations.

      Really interesting to find out abortion is actually prevalent in the Bible. I’m surprised the sheer amount of belief differences between the OT and NT don’t cause greater suspicion in Christians that something is a little off with the history of their belief.

      • john zande says:

        Yeah, the Council of Nicaea made a terrible blunder in attaching the OT to the NT. I guess they needed a creation myth and were just too lazy to write a new one.

        Out of interest, have you ever read Gods Debris by Scott Adams? It’s short, 100-odd pages, and available free online.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Well, Jesus did seem to use the prophesy of the OT in order to emphasize the value in what he taught. Without the OT, Jesus loses relevance as well. Though, the OT seems to be a rather long and dry read – I imagine most people don’t bother with a thorough investigation of it. With how Jesus was able to impress the religious leaders of the time with his knowledge around the age of 12, I suspect it has always been a challenge to thoroughly investigate and Jesus (and the NT writers) were able to use that to an advantage in achieving their goals.

      • john zande says:

        It actually raises some dreadful credibility problems for Jesus. He named Moses and even says he (Moses) wrote about him. Now, we know Moses was a fictional character, so how on earth didn’t Jesus know this? It’s a huge blunder.

      • jasonjshaw says:

        I’ve got to say, it’s been really interesting looking at Jesus from a human perspective. The more I explore, the more the theory fits.

        And the God’s Debris download worked, thanks! I’ll try and get myself into a reading mode and check it out!

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Oh, and I haven’t read that, I’ll take a look!

      • jasonjshaw says:

        Seems that it’s no longer free, but I read the Wikipedia article on it to catch the basic idea. Sounds like an interesting perspective!

      • john zande says:

        Here you go. If this doesn’t work i can send you an email. I have it on Pdf

    • (rolls eyes…)

      Again with this stuff, Professor John?? It’s always the same with you people, wining and moaning over Yahweh and His bad-assery! Those people were pagans who didn’t fit the legal definition of being human at the time. They were the fetuses of the Biblical age! Abortion has always been sanctioned by God. This is a good thing, no?

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