If Atheists Sounded Like Christians (video)

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What were Jesus’ ACTUAL final words?

It’s interesting.  Jesus’ death and resurrection are the cornerstone of Christianity.  For an event so important, you would think the Gospel accounts would connect with each other really well around these events.

You would think that Jesus’ final words would have been remembered clearly enough that the Gospels would be in agreement as to what they were, or at least close to agreement.

And yet, they aren’t.

Let’s take a look.

Matthew 27 (NLT)
46 At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
50 Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit.

Mark 15 (NLT)
34 
Then at three o’clock Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
37 Then Jesus uttered another loud cry and breathed his last.

Okay, looks good so far!  This is what should be expected.

Luke 23 (NLT)
46 Then Jesus shouted, “Father, I entrust my spirit into your hands!” And with those words he breathed his last.

Hmmmm.  Okay.  Maybe this is what Jesus shouted that the passages in Matthew and Mark referred to as Jesus’ final shout/loud cry?

It does seem a bit contradictory though.  Jesus is speaking of God abandoning him in Matthew and Mark, but is trusting “Father” God in Luke.

Okay.  Maybe John can clarify things for us.

John 19 (NLT)
28 Jesus knew that his mission was now finished, and to fulfill Scripture he said, “I am thirsty.” 29 A jar of sour wine was sitting there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put it on a hyssop branch, and held it up to his lips. 30 When Jesus had tasted it, he said, “It is finished!” Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

Wait.  What?

Jesus was thirsty so he could fulfil scripture?  That doesn’t fit with the other Gospel accounts at all!

This is the most important event in Christianity and the Gospels are all over the place about this.

How are we to take the rest of Christianity seriously if the foundation of the belief has such serious cracks in it like this?

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If there is no God, murder isn’t wrong?

 

So Christians, if you found out right this instant that there is no God, would you go out and start murdering?

Here’s a video that goes into this more:

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Religion was useful, but not anymore

In searching about morality, I notice that religion is described as something that was beneficial to societies from an evolutionary standpoint.

“The adaptive value of religion would have enhanced group survival.” ~Wikipedia: Evolution of Morality

This makes sense.  If you frighten people of a common scary consequence, they likely would work together better – especially if they can’t debunk the fear.  In the past, I can’t imagine many other things bringing people together so well, aside from the threat from a nearby hostile society.

Now, looking at how developed nations tend to be letting go of religious belief, I suspect that demonstrates how traditional religion is losing its usefulness.  We don’t need to be scared of a vengeful God any longer to band together.  Enough of us are realizing how silly of an idea it is, and we have more reality-based issues to band together over now and the abilities to do so.

Though, some of those reality-based issues do end up developing questionable narratives not unlike traditional religions.

It will be interesting to see where things might lead from here.

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Why facts can’t sway hardened believers

People who have hardened viewpoints really aren’t swayed by contrasting information, even if that information is true, it seems.

It’s not just a belief system thing either.  Anyone who feels strongly about any viewpoint can be guilty of this.  I’ve noticed it can be quite common in politics.

What’s even worse is that when factual information is shared that runs in opposition to their viewpoint, it can even strengthen their beliefs.

It’s quite the bizarre thing!

Read more about this “backfire effect” here:
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/

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It’s interesting to hear about historical discoveries that give us clues about the actual nature of our existence.

Oldest traces of life on Earth found in Quebec, dating back roughly 3.8 billion years
May aid in search for traces of life elsewhere in our solar system
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/oldest-record-life-earth-found-quebec-1.4004545

 

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Christians love their false dilemmas

The past couple of days I have been debating with a commenter about the nature of morality.  Neither of us seemed to be productive in our arguments with one another, but one thing really struck me as odd.

My point of view was very consistently being mischaracterized.

My stance is that morality tends to come about naturally due to consequence and reaction. My opponent’s stance was that without an objective morality “in an atheistic worldview everything is random and spontaneous. There should be no order.

Except there is order.  The order isn’t always consistent, but some form of order always develops.  It’s not the anarchy my opponent is making it out to be, and that should be clear by simply looking at non-religious populations in the world.  The greatest amount of conflict seems more to be centred around highly religious populations utilizing objective moralities.

But I wonder, if morality is objective and comes from God, which part of the Bible am I to find the source of the swimming pool rules?

How do the Mafia determine their organization’s rules?

Why do we have governments working to manage the rules of countries?  Where are their rule changes coming from?

How does society adapt to believe new things are good or bad if morality is objective?

How do different denomination of Christianity adopt different viewpoints of the same objective morality guidebook?

My point of view was also mischaracterized as being one that lacks meaning.  That’s absolutely absurd.  If my life lacked meaning, the conversation I am speaking of would never have been something I would have cared to engage in.  I would be out inciting chaos, raping and pillaging and all of that fun stuff, wouldn’t I?

And then there is C.S. Lewis’ false dilemma about Jesus having to be either lord, liar, or lunatic which I speak of in my old post titled “Jesus: Liar, Lunatic, or Lord? … OR!

Another blogger just happened to mentioned that she has just had a similar Christian false dilemma encounter in the past couple of days as well.  How’s that for divine intervention timing!  See: “Why Are We Here?

 

Anyways, I thought I was done with this Christian criticism blog thing.  Funny how things happen sometimes!  I guess everything is a part of God’s plan, right?

Alright, time for me to go snub my nose at blasphemous pool rules and dive into some shallow water, alone, while yelling loudly.  Those pool rule makers think they’re on-par with God … how dare they!

(for more info on false dilemmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma)

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